Thanks for the speedy reply - I recently spotted lots of the LAB putters in play on the LPGA! - Several of the recent college kids to play on the LPGA are using them?
As far as the SM9's are concerned, as a general rule, yes changing the loft on any club does affect the bounce, but it's affect will depend on what the existing bounce is & how much you want to add or subtract from the loft? - I was only thinking about changing the lie, but they are not a forged head (AFAIK?) so not sure if possible to adjust either?
As far as the SM9's are concerned, as a general rule, yes changing the loft on any club does affect the bounce, but it's affect will depend on what the existing bounce is & how much you want to add or subtract from the loft? - I was only thinking about changing the lie, but they are not a forged head (AFAIK?) so not sure if possible to adjust either?
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Oh lord my brother, I need to give you lessons... I was still an Assistant Professional at a country club outside Louisville when I got married. The marriage certificate in Jamaica shows the occupation of the husband and wife, so since mine declared me to be a "Golf Professional", Rosalie didn't have much room to complain.
What was really sort of funny, but also unfair, is that the wife's occupation wasn't listed as "Teacher", but it just says "Spinster"...
What was really sort of funny, but also unfair, is that the wife's occupation wasn't listed as "Teacher", but it just says "Spinster"...
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Yeah - I hear you - I only disclose the net cost - as I sold one of my Scott's for £275 on the bay which meant net cost was c. 225 so that passed domestic line management review (lol)
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I got a new driver today. The ST-Z 230 with a HZRDUS Blue RDX Smoke 6.0 shaft. I didn't have much time to get to know it beforehand as I was leaving to the course a couple of hours after it was delivered.
The club certainly feels different. The ST180 is closer to an empty metal can, it has a downright violent sound. The STZ is in the opposite end, it feels like the ball melts to the face, almost to the point it feels like the ball wouldn't fly very far.
I ended up putting my HZRDUS Smoke Black from the 180 onto the STZ for the round. The couple of swings I had with the Blue were all over the place.
I have to say I wasn't impressed by the distance I was getting out of the STZ but my driver swing wasn't quite there, it was raining heavily at times and it was much colder than it has been over the past weeks so it'll need more rounds to figure out.
But what I did find interesting was how it returned the ball to the target line (gear effect). There was especially one drive, a slight pull fade over a mound I expected to find in the rough to the left of the fairway. I already got slightly confused about where the ball could've gone only to find it safely on the fairway. The 180 wouldn't have brought it back.
I should get another round in on Sunday to know more. But, at the moment I feel like I should've probably ordered it with the Hzrdus Green.
The club certainly feels different. The ST180 is closer to an empty metal can, it has a downright violent sound. The STZ is in the opposite end, it feels like the ball melts to the face, almost to the point it feels like the ball wouldn't fly very far.
I ended up putting my HZRDUS Smoke Black from the 180 onto the STZ for the round. The couple of swings I had with the Blue were all over the place.
I have to say I wasn't impressed by the distance I was getting out of the STZ but my driver swing wasn't quite there, it was raining heavily at times and it was much colder than it has been over the past weeks so it'll need more rounds to figure out.
But what I did find interesting was how it returned the ball to the target line (gear effect). There was especially one drive, a slight pull fade over a mound I expected to find in the rough to the left of the fairway. I already got slightly confused about where the ball could've gone only to find it safely on the fairway. The 180 wouldn't have brought it back.
I should get another round in on Sunday to know more. But, at the moment I feel like I should've probably ordered it with the Hzrdus Green.
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I am within 24-48 hour of buying a new set of irons. At my age, physical condition and playing in this ridiculous Miami heat and humidity, I need something with the lightest possible head so lengthening it an inch will leave me able to swing it without exhaustion. I'm looking at XXIO Prime irons and Cobra Air-X. While it may cost more, I think I'd prefer the XXIO.
Details to follow...
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I found my XXIO Prime irons, 5-SW, Regular flex, 1/4" extra long, (which I'll extend another 1/2" since I already have the extensions cut to that length)...
I have been assured the heads are about the lightest XXIO ever made, so my extensions, counter balanced with my usual 75 gram 1/8" oversize grips, should still be in the C5-C8 range.
They should arrive Tuesday. More then...
Wish Mizuno made something with such light heads...
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Contrary to advice from 2 different club companies, the XXIO irons arrived and were very head heavy. They are sitting by the front door for Fedex to return them. Considering the news in a thread I just posted in the Equipment Forum, I'm really sort of happy about it.
Details to follow...
[EDIT]
I found my XXIO Prime irons, 5-SW, Regular flex, 1/4" extra long, (which I'll extend another 1/2" since I already have the extensions cut to that length)...
I have been assured the heads are about the lightest XXIO ever made, so my extensions, counter balanced with my usual 75 gram 1/8" oversize grips, should still be in the C5-C8 range.
They should arrive Tuesday. More then...
Wish Mizuno made something with such light heads...
[EDIT]
Contrary to advice from 2 different club companies, the XXIO irons arrived and were very head heavy. They are sitting by the front door for Fedex to return them. Considering the news in a thread I just posted in the Equipment Forum, I'm really sort of happy about it.
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I forgot... A couple weeks ago, I bought a new Sun Mountain stand bag. It's a 14 way top from the Eclipse series and I chose the dark green color. Since the body of the bag is slightly larger to accommodate 14 dividers, the external pockets are also slightly larger and they hold much more than I could ever dream I would want to carry. The new Mizunos are going to look really good in the new bag.
Hi Dennis ... Although your news about the incoming Mizuno irons does help the situation, I am sorry to hear your XXIO irons haven't worked out - I'm not sure if it's the same across the pond, but here in the UK I believe XXIO clubs would be put together by Srixon / Cleveland (all under the Dunlop umbrella) - After very bad experiences two pals of mine had with custom fit irons, I would never buy a custom set from them or recommend anyone ever did? - In brief they made one set of irons an inch shorter than standard but they were 8x swing weights too light & the other set which were made one inch longer were between 8x - 10x swing weights too heavy! - It would appear they don't have different weight heads to use when they build a custom set of irons? - Custom sets at standard length are no problem, with swing weights bang on @ D3 (Srixon irons that was)
I hope the Mizuno irons work out for you
Cheers ... Paul
I hope the Mizuno irons work out for you
Cheers ... Paul
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Exactly right about the Dunlop family of companies. I was disappointed because over the phone with a so called expert at 2nd Swing, (big used club seller here), we talked about me needing lighter heads and I specifically mentioned the set I had in mind, right down to the SKU number. I took them to a Fedex shipping center today for the return.
The guy gave me the serial number on the Mizunos. I know they are the B heads since they left the factory in Atlanta 3/4" longer. What I forgot to ask was about the lie, so I can't do that until they reopen after the Labor Day holiday, probably Tuesday.
I don't think HM irons can be bent, but if they can, I'll see what happens. As slow as my old body swings a club anymore, I doubt I produce much toe down anyway. There was a time I used 3 degrees upright. I'd bet now, I could use standard without any ill effects.
The guy gave me the serial number on the Mizunos. I know they are the B heads since they left the factory in Atlanta 3/4" longer. What I forgot to ask was about the lie, so I can't do that until they reopen after the Labor Day holiday, probably Tuesday.
I don't think HM irons can be bent, but if they can, I'll see what happens. As slow as my old body swings a club anymore, I doubt I produce much toe down anyway. There was a time I used 3 degrees upright. I'd bet now, I could use standard without any ill effects.
Sounds all quite positive Dennis? - You are right to think the 921 HM cannot be bent - They use Mizuno's Chromoly metal, which my club repair guy tells me is almost impossible to bend without it cracking (he has been asked to try a number of times & they have always cracked?) - Hopefully the lies will be within a tolerance for you to be able to use them? - Good luck ... Paul
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Today, I picked up an ST-X Platinum driver, 10.5 degree, senior flex Helium shaft. If it doesn't rain, I'll try it out first thing tomorrow morning. With my usual oversized grip on it, the swingweight is C3, quite a bit lighter than my other drivers.
I made a mistake. The driver is C-8. i guess I read the scale wrong.
I made a mistake. The driver is C-8. i guess I read the scale wrong.
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