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Proposed changes to the Rules of Golf

Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:01 pm

Posted by Halebopp


I was slightly surprised not to find anything about this on here:

http://www.randa.org/RulesModernisation

Most of it seems good to me except for allowing courses to determine woods and whatnot to be similar to current lateral water hazards, allowing the pin to be kept in when putting.

It's a great time to study these as I'm participating in level two referee course next week and I should know the current rules in the test. :D
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Re: Proposed changes to the Rules of Golf

Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:08 am

Posted by 2klix


Much of it from what I have seen is around speeding up play, so only looking for balls for 3 mins, dropping balls from 1 inch rather than shoulder height which needs a couple goes as it bounces and rolls back into the water ;)
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Re: Proposed changes to the Rules of Golf

Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:56 am

Posted by Brattz


The main one is missing......

The one rule everyone wants to be introduced is relief from a divot on the fairway
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Re: Proposed changes to the Rules of Golf

Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:23 pm

Posted by DMT


I used to agree re the divot issue but did once hear a good counter argument. How do you define a divot? I know they could provide a definition but is there a danger that marginal cases become subjective? I might say slightly brushed/bare fairway is a divot and you might disagree. Could people abuse such a rule (and yes, I'm sure we all know, or have heard of, members who currently take a fairly liberal interpretation of the rules). 
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Re: Proposed changes to the Rules of Golf

Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:22 pm

Posted by hursty


DMT wrote:

I used to agree re the divot issue but did once hear a good counter argument. How do you define a divot? I know they could provide a definition but is there a danger that marginal cases become subjective? I might say slightly brushed/bare fairway is a divot and you might disagree. Could people abuse such a rule (and yes, I'm sure we all know, or have heard of, members who currently take a fairly liberal interpretation of the rules). 


Preferred lies on all fairways, play as it lies off the fairway.

Not something I particularly would like to see but would get rid of the is it a divot or not question.
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Re: Proposed changes to the Rules of Golf

Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:24 pm

Posted by DMT


Makes a lot of sense hurtsy. (And one day soon I'll work out how to embed prior messages!). 
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Re: Proposed changes to the Rules of Golf

Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:33 pm

Posted by PaulBoy


Brattz wrote:

The main one is missing......

The one rule everyone wants to be introduced is relief from a divot on the fairway

The divot relief would get my vote & I have another ... If your ball goes into a bunker full of water & you can't drop in the bunker, you incur a penalty - I know you're not supposed to go in bunkers, but it's not your fault its full of water ...
On the changes they have made ... Why say you can drop from an inch? - Why not allow placing?
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Re: Proposed changes to the Rules of Golf

Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:55 pm

Posted by hursty


DMT wrote:

Makes a lot of sense hurtsy. (And one day soon I'll work out how to embed prior messages!). 


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Re: Proposed changes to the Rules of Golf

Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:28 am

Posted by Halebopp


hursty wrote:

DMT wrote:

I used to agree re the divot issue but did once hear a good counter argument. How do you define a divot? I know they could provide a definition but is there a danger that marginal cases become subjective? I might say slightly brushed/bare fairway is a divot and you might disagree. Could people abuse such a rule (and yes, I'm sure we all know, or have heard of, members who currently take a fairly liberal interpretation of the rules). 


Preferred lies on all fairways, play as it lies off the fairway.

Not something I particularly would like to see but would get rid of the is it a divot or not question.


In my opinion preferred lies moves the game too far away from what I consider to be the whole idea of the game - playing the ball as it lies. You hit the ball somewhere, you play it out or pay a penalty for some help (outside of environment and constructions that require protection from the players). It would change the game drastically while offering a fix to a very rare problem.

If it were relief from divots only, you'd put everyone else at a disadvantage of not getting to choose from where to play their next shots. Not to mention the problems already mentioned from defining a divot and people wasting time trying to figure out whether their ball is in one or not.

I'd also worry that if you allowed relief from divots, people would be less inclined to repair them to the best of their abilities and the course conditions in general would suffer.
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Re: Proposed changes to the Rules of Golf

Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:03 pm

Posted by hursty


I don't think players would be more inclined to not repair divots if relief was given from them.

As another scenario,

You're in the final of your Club matchplay, it's all square on the 18th, you hit a cracking drive down the centre of the fairway your opponent pulls one left into the rough.

You walk upto your ball and are in a divot so deep that only the top half of the ball is showing, your opponent walks to his ball and is lying in an area that has been marked as GUR, under new rules he can now drop it from 1" height (virtually setting up a lie).

How is this fair?

Like I said previously I don't agree with the preferred lies on all fairways option but definitely think the relief from divots rule needs looking at.
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