Thanks John, I normally have to buy Mizuno gloves online these days so I need to check sizes first. I normally take a "M" but up until a couple years ago I had to take a "ML" in Mizuno gloves. I have used the old "thermagrip" gloves but my last pair didn't last as long as the first pair. The last couple of years I havn't been using Mizuno gloves except in the winter as it was much more convenient to get gloves from the pro shop, I use the Srixon all weather during the summer but from the beginning of this year their fit has got tighter and I have had to go a size up with those and Pro has confirmed they are smaller this year.